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UnHappy Residents – Letters to the editor August 15,2016 – Penticton Herald

 5 letters from the Penticton Herald from August 15 2016 

City offered only one place to vote

Dear Editor:

Sometimes it is just impossible to let something go unchallenged. In this case, it is a statement made in the latest Mayor’s Minute (Herald, Aug. 12) that left me incensed and deeply offended by what I consider to be an extremely callous and “misinformed” comment. The offending words were: “How do you engage the public when only 33 per cent of eligible voters care enough to vote?”

Yes, it may be true that voter turnout during the last civic election was only 33 per cent, but was it really because the people of Penticton don’t care?

I don’t think so.

Hundreds of letters to the editor and massive protests in front of City Hall say otherwise. I also do not believe that the city has earned the right to complain about voter turnout. If you want people to come out and vote, then make it easy to do so.

The fact is, on the day of the last civic election the City of Penticton offered only one place to vote. In my opinion, this shortsightedness had more to do with the disappointing 33 per cent voter turnout than any other factor. To put things in perspective, Summerland had three voting locations, and Kelowna as many as 15.

I mean, really: just think about it. When the citizens of Penticton are willing to stand in line for an hour or more to vote, or willing to drive by two or three times during the day in order to find parking, they are just about as “engaged” as anyone can get. Protests aside, the message is loud and clear; we bloody well do care.

As for considering letters to the editor as not representing a valid cross-section of city residents, and therefore unworthy of consideration, or even the effort it takes to read them, one should keep in mind that anyone and everyone can express their opinions through this medium. How much more fair, valid, and meaningful, can they possibly be? When someone refuses to consider the words of those who chose to disagree, any effort to improve communication will simply be a complete waste of everyone’s time and money.


David Korinetz



Other cities buy, not sell, park land


Dear Editor:

We are extremely disappointed with current mayor and council in the decisions they make supposedly for the good of the community. Council appears to be out of tune with the citizens of Penticton.

We support efforts to improve the community, support local business, create a positive atmosphere for its citizens and tourists, but not at the cost of parkland.

It is beyond us and we cannot get our minds around the decision to lease out difficult-to-obtain parkland for a waterslide. We are not against a waterslide but not on park land. I have spent a number of years in the service of a major city in B.C. in a senior position. The struggle always was to secure more park land and this was done at a cost to the city (market value property). Yet, here is one of the most desirable cities in B.C. — if not the country — and council arbitrarily decides to lease out parkland along the lake without consultation with the taxpayers!

Do the right thing, stand up and admit your error and reverse council’s motions.

While I am writing, reconsider the parking meters initiative. Study the demographics of your citizens and the hardship a parking charge would be to the large percentage of seniors who park at the beach and walk for their enjoyment and exercise.


Lex Hagen



Council doesn’t deserve praise


Dear Editor:

Recently a lady (don’t recall her name at the moment, however, if she reads this she’ll know who she is) complained about negative letters to the editor.

Those of us who write letters to be presented in your paper were chastised for brow-beating our poor “hard-working council.” I guess a better term for it would be rebuked.

The inference was that we should be lauding or applauding rather expressing our displeasure with council and what they have done since being elected.

To that particular lady I would stress that those of us who do write do so with the guarantee that it is our democratic right to do so. I cannot speak for the others, however, I resent the fact that along with others I was being admonished as a small child might be for misbehaving.

The moral here is: Lady, if you don’t like to read letters that criticize, maybe you should adopt Coun. Picton’s way of dealing with it. Don’t read them! Go golfing, do some gardening, play bridge, knit, et al.

In order for praise to be given, there has to be something that merits a “pat on the back” so to speak. I challenge you to come up with a list of accomplishments that are deserving of true recognition. At the same time, I would urge you to make a list of things promised to the electorate by council prior to the election but as yet are undelivered and then tell me that council deserves a “pat on the back!”

Here, I’ll help you by starting you off. Accountability (non-existent); fiscal responsibility (voted themselves medical benefits paid for by taxpayers with no consultation; openness (a token joke or what?); an election with one polling station; willing away dedicated parkland for private development and planning to add paid parking at Okanagan Beach and other area city properties. The list goes on. I would surmise that your list would be much shorter!

Can you honestly say with a clear conscience that this is deserving of accolades or applause? I certainly would hope not!


Ron Barillaro



Worst council in their lifetimes


Dear Editor:

Two years ago my wife and I moved to Penticton and in the fall of that year we had no knowledge of the participants who were running for mayor and council so we did not vote.

But, after the election results we have been keeping a close watch on their performances. Needless to say we haven’t been happy and have become more frustrated. We are both in our late-70s so we have had our share of good and bad government in our lifetime and the present situation with this mayor and his cohorts has got to be the worst we ever experienced.

Have they not heard of the word “democratic?” Since when do civic electorates get to close the doors on voters who elected them wanting answers to the devastating decisions to take away a piece of jewelry that belong to the voters (i.e. Skaha Lake Park). It’s too bad the election time was changed from annually to every four years. At least in those days we could throw the bums out before the damage became irreversible.

P.S.: I think it should be imperative that each council member and mayor be required to read the daily newspaper so as to be informed on what the voters think. If there’s a lot of negativity then maybe they should think about making their decisions right. I’m looking forward to the next election year.


Dan Gauvreau



City Hall needs efficiency study


Dear Editor:

According to the Downtown Penticton Association schedule Slide the City was scheduled to be here Friday and Saturday, July 1 and 2nd. Last I heard they sold 1,300 tickets and closed up shop after one day.

So what happened to all these waterslide supporters? There were lots of tourists here for Canada Day and 33,000 locals; maybe 10,000 kids. Watersliders didn’t show enough support to even keep the waterslide open for the scheduled two days. Yet council continues with its waterslide development plan.

Does this make sense to you?

The city is hiring an engagement officer because not enough people turn out to the city’s show and tell events. According to the mayor 50 to 100 or 200 doesn’t give council an adequate sample of how the public feels about any project. He cited 1,000 people as a useful sample size.

Yet when 1,000 turned up in protest at City Hall against the waterslide project in Skaha Lake Park he signed the agreement with Trio.

Does this make sense to you?

Once when I was requesting information from the corporate officer I was turned over to her assistant to fulfill my request. Yet according to Jake Kimberley the new engagement officer would be a second assistant to the corporate officer. Unless the former assistant has moved on then the engagement officer is the third person assigned to that department. Then we have the communications officer which ostensibly makes four people assigned to fulfill the duties of this department. If each department increased at a ratio of 4 to 1, city payroll would soon number in the tens of thousands.

Does this make sense to you?

As I said before we need an efficiency study at City Hall. An efficiency study would recognize the hard work and efficiency of those whose work goes largely unrecognized. It would also highlight the slackers and those that take advantage of other employees to lighten their load. It would highlight time-consuming make-work projects. An efficiency study is an opportunity to recognize and reward those that deserve it: Recognition of abilities that likely have remained off the radar screen of the CAO. This is what leads to future advancement to those that have proved they have what it takes. It also cuts the fat.

Does this make sense to you?


Elvena Slump



City is trying, but more can be done


Dear Editor:

Yes, I know the city is trying to get low-cost housing, mostly for the disabled or those on low incomes (Herald, Aug. 12).

Disability allows you $375 and I think hydro should be included. Food has gone up along with lot of things so if you’re left with $400 for a five-week month, it can be tight. The amount of people that couch-surf or stay a few nights here and there is a lot higher then you might think. It’s not like years ago you could get a place with all included, TV and phone for $295 a month. Either get the rent part of cheques up or work on what we the disabled are allowed. It might cut down on soup kitchen usage. The high hydro bills is what is killing a lot of people.


James Readman



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We are a concerned group dedicated, not only to Parks preservation, but healthy democratic politics at Penticton City Hall.  We are holding a public meeting this Friday, August 19, 2016 at 7 pm near Skaha Park Kids Splash Pad.
Topics we are concerned about and would like to discuss are the following:
OUR LEGAL RIGHT TO A REFERENDUM REGARDING THE SKAHAPARK PORTION LEASE TO TRIO MARINE (According to bylaw 2002-42, and other existing laws regarding the disposition of Parkland)  Questioning whether the current senior staff, Mayor and Council are abusing their authority, not only on this lease , but the continuous disregard to the wishes of its citizens.
Also topics on mismanagement of public funds, lawsuits, the installation of parking meters, unnecessary hiring of a public relations personnel (engagement officer) , etc.etc….
Having a peaceful public rally in the near future.
It appears the”Dream Team” at City Hall has an agenda that does not, and will not include public input.  It’s time to take back and restore democracy.  If you have any of these concerns as a resident of Penticton, please attend.
“Lets get engaged!”

Penticton Public meeting planned for Friday to discuss waterslides referendum

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Letter to the editor – Penticton Herald

Penticton residents upset with a proposed water slide development in Skaha Lake Park and other civic matters are invited to a public meeting Friday night.

Clifford Martin has called the meeting to “discuss a demand for a referendum” on the city’s lease of park land to Trio Marine Group,” parking meters, “as well as issues regarding wasting taxpayers’ money.”

The gathering – “not a rally,” he noted – is scheduled for 7 p.m. at the splash pad at Skaha Lake Park.

In recent years, Martin has also organized rallies against the water slide proposal and a plan to implement parallel parking along Lakeshore Drive.



Too Busy – Letters to the editor – Penticton Herlad

Too Busy?

There is an old wives tale that hints of getting things done. It points out that if one wants something of importance done; find someone who’s too busy to do and it will get done! I am wondering as to how this might apply locally at our civic political level, especially to Councilor Picton.

Apparently Councilor Picton, who has no time for reading the local paper (he uses the excuse of too much negativity to justify this) feels that his time is more valuable and can be put to better use. With this in mind, are we, the taxpayers to believe that he is out and about engaging with the citizenry and that this aspect is taking up his time? Or is it that he is so involved with things in his personal life that are so important like, gardening (possibly); hobbies (whatever they may be); visiting friends and family or vacationing, but to name a few. Surely these are far more important than fulfilling the mandate that he was given as a result of being elected.

It seems that if and when he is “engaged,” it appears that comments he makes seem to mimic those of “The Donald” to some degree where one shoots from the lip and not the gray matter. Oh, did I say that? Tsk! Tsk! Hush my mouth! Perish the thought!

As I have said previously, Councilor Picton, “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the political kitchen!” The political chain is only as strong as its weakest link!

Ron Barillaro


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Province provides funding to keep OSS open, but will school board take it?

Province provides funding to keep OSS open, but will school board take it?

By on June 15, 2016
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  • Following a stunning and unexpected commitment of millions of dollars in funding Wednesday to keep rural schools in B.C. open, trustees with School District 53 have been provided the funding they say wasn’t available to keep Osoyoos Secondary School open.

The provincial Liberal government announced around 1:30 p.m. it would provide more than $2.7 million in funding to try and keep nine rural schools, including OSS, open now and in the future.

To help rural schools in British Columbia stay open, Premier Christy Clark announced a new Rural Education Enhancement Fund.

Districts outside Greater Victoria, the Lower Mainland, and Kelowna will be able to apply for ongoing provincial funding that recognizes the unique challenges faced in keeping schools open in rural communities.

“Closing the only high school or elementary school in a rural community has a large impact on that local economy,” Clark said. “With Canada’s strongest economy, it’s important that we make sure the benefits are shared by rural communities throughout our province to ensure they have the infrastructure they need to grow, attract talent, and provide critical services like health care. Our rural education strategy will help us accomplish this.”

The amount of funding districts will be eligible for is to be equal to their expected savings from closing the school.

In the case of OSS, trustees who voted to close the school in late April, stated closing OSS for the 2016-17 school year would save the district around $400,000.

Boundary-Similkameen MLA Linda Larson, in a phone interview from Quesnel where she and members of the Liberal caucus had gathered for meetings, said shortly after the announcement she fully expects OSS to remain open.

Larson was officially named parliamentary secretary for rural education in the same press release that announced the funding to rural schools on Wednesday.

This new funding will be in addition to the $118,000 Larson announced to School District 53 two weeks ago as part of $25 million in administrative savings given back to school districts across the province.

The trustees with School District 53 have stated financial stresses due to declining enrolment on their annual budget as the reason for closing the school and that financial stress will be eliminated with this latest announcement, said Larson.

“The ultimate decision still lies with the school board … but having removed the biggest obstacle to keeping the school open, which is financial, it’s now up to them to come up with a different arrangement since they’ve now been given the money they need to keep the school open.”

Contrary to what many residents of Osoyoos think, Larson said she has been working diligently behind the scenes to try and keep OSS open since trustees voted to close the school on April 26.

She first presented Clark with her serious concerns about the impact closing OSS would have on local residents and the local economy more than two months ago, said Larson.

“She listened to what I had to say and saw merit in the arguments I was trying to make,” she said.

With several other school districts voting to close rural schools over the past several months, Ministry of Education staff have worked diligently over the past eight or nine weeks to formulate a financial plan designed to meet the unique financial challenges faced by schools in rural areas of this province, she said.

While Wednesday’s announcement stated the nine schools will have “to apply” for funding, Larson said the money is available and can be forwarded to affected school districts in a very short time period.

“School districts have until June 30 to submit their budgets … and this money will be available to them long before this deadline,” she said.

The decision to approve this funding came after Clark and the Ministry of Education agreed that local economies would suffer immensely if these rural schools were closed, said Larson.

“There’s no doubt that local economies would suffer immensely if these schools close,” she said. “It just made a lot of sense to ensure local economies could be sustained by providing the funding to keep those rural schools open.”

When asked why the Liberal government didn’t provide this funding five months ago when School District 53 trustees first announced they would consider closing OSS, Larson said she has been discussing the issue of funding for rural schools with her counterparts in the Ministry of Education for more than two years.

“I have been working on this issue for a very long time,” she said. “A matter of when can be debated, but the bottom line is we’ve done what needed to be done to keep these rural schools open.”

Districts would be able to apply annually for Rural Education Enhancement Funding if they meet the following criteria:

  • In a rural community or sub-community outside Greater Victoria, the Lower Mainland, and Kelowna areas with a population less than 15,000;
  • Closure would eliminate specific grades within the community;
  • Funding is used to keep the school open; and
  • Closures due to facility condition or extreme enrolment decline are not included.

While the ongoing Rural Education Enhancement Fund will help keep schools open starting this coming school year, Clark also tasked Larson and parliamentary secretary for rural development Donna Barnett to conduct a full study of rural education funding in the province to seek a long-term solution.

The Rural Education Strategy will look at rural school district budgets and the role education and schools play in communities outside the Lower Mainland, Greater Victoria, and Kelowna.

The strategy will aim to find solutions for the unique challenges facing rural school districts while recognizing the economic impact of single schools in small communities.

Details of the review will be announced in the near future.

“For students, families, and rural areas, the local school is the centre of the community and the local economy. In my time as minister I’ve seen that our education funding model doesn’t take all the unique rural factors into account,” Minister of Education Mike Bernier said. “My ministry will work with the parliamentary secretaries to take a hard look at how we can make sure the unique community and economic role of rural schools is supported in how we fund school districts.”

School District 53 board chair Marieze Tarr could not be reached for comment Wednesday afternoon.

This story will be updated on a regular basis as more information becomes available.


Osoyoos Times


‘It’s been a solid process:’ SD 67 again rejects special adviser

Linda Van Aplhen

Linda Van Aplhen

Okanagan Skaha school board chairwoman Linda Van Alphen

Posted: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:09 pm

Nothing less than a personal letter from the minister of education will convince one local school trustee the B.C. government is genuine in its offer to pay for a special adviser to review the process used to close three schools in Penticton and Summerland.

“My statement says the minister of education has not made the offer to appoint and pay for a special adviser and that still has not changed to this day,” Okanagan Skaha trustee Barb Sheppard said at a board meeting Monday night.

“So, at this point, the moment School District 67 receives a written offer to appoint and pay for a special adviser form the minister of education, I will respectfully make the motion to accept his honour’s offer at the next public school district board meeting.”

An earlier version of her statement, which was sent to some parents over the weekend, was referenced in an article in the Monday edition of The Herald that suggested a letter from Penticton MLA Dan Ashton confirming the offer may have been enough to convince her to accept the special adviser’s help.

But it wasn’t, nor was separate confirmation Monday from superintendent Wendy Hyer, who told the board the deputy minister of education had indeed made the same offer to her.

Hearing that, trustee Bruce Johnson motioned to accept the deal.

“I see this as a free, outstanding offer to review the process and to get a new set of eyes on it,” said Johnson.

“It would certainly build a lot of confidence and trust with everybody at no cost. Perhaps it would turn into a win-win situation.”

However, board chairwoman Linda Van Alphen and the other five trustees stuck to their guns and voted 6-1 to pass up the offer.

“I think I have been as clear as I possibly can be from the very, very beginning with this whole process. I believe it’s been a solid process and I know there are people that don’t believe that. But you know what? That’s your prerogative,” said Van Alphen, who noted the B.C. Office of the Ombudsperson is already conducting a parallel review.

Some parents, particularly those in Trout Creek, have called for the special adviser due to concerns about the school’s late addition to the chopping block and the board’s apparent unwillingness to consider alternate measure to keep the doors open. Parents on the West Bench have expressed similar concerns.

Schools in those two communities, plus McNicoll Park in Penticton, are all due to close June 30. The board’s next scheduled public meeting is in September.

A special adviser is currently at work in the North Okanagan-Shuswap School District.

The appointment followed the resignation of three trustees there in April after the Salmon Arm-based district revealed its new $9 million office was funded in part from operating funds meant for classrooms.

The adviser’s report is complete, but has not yet been released publicly.

The City of Penticton is not following their own Bylaws

June 13, 2016.
Letter to Editor

Penticton residents must wake up or partially lose control of Skaha Park as early as September, 2016. The City of Penticton is not following their own Bylaws #2002-42, #2011-23 and #2012-5020.This past week, I met a Bylaw officer in front of Skaha Marina, as he was checking all 3 vehicles with boat trailers attached, to see if they complied with City Parking Bylaws. I pointed out the incorrect building signage and invited him to come with me to view the operation of the “Marina Restaurant” some 100 feet away and he refused. In 2015 and 2016, I submitted complaints directly to City Bylaw Supervisor, but to date they have refused to address this issue. Residents should review the” Bylaw Notice Enforcement Bylaw No. 2012-5037, where each daily offence could have a penalty of $100.00. I can see under Appendix 1, 4, 6 and 7, several daily alleged offence penalties. These yearly penalties could be higher than the Lessee’s yearly lease however there is a maximum per yearly offence.

Nelson Meikle

Is Assisted Suicide Part of NWO Agenda?


Is Assisted Suicide Part of NWO Agenda?

June 4, 2016


“The State has given life and the State has taken it away … blessed be the  State!”



The legalization of ‘medical assistance in dying’ 

is ‘New World Order’ policy. As is typical, Canada 

is on of the vanguard of the coming dystopia.



(Disclaimer: I favor medically assisted suicide but Oliver raises valid concerns.)




“I suppose it can’t be that difficult to euthanize a population, if you have already lobotomized them. “



by Oliver Heydorn



As I write this, Canada is on the verge of legalizing both euthanasia and assisted suicide under the euphemism of “medical assistance in dying”.


The Supreme Court struck down the ban on assisted suicide last year as “unconstitutional” in yet another example of judicial activism and interference forcing Parliament to draft a new law. In principle, Parliament could invoke the ‘notwithstanding clause’, but, with someone of the low intellectual and moral calibre of Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, there is no prospect of being rescued by the executive branch.


While I think the typical arguments raised by the pro-euthanasia crowd are easy to dismiss, this development that should be of great concern.

The legalization of ‘medical assistance in dying’ is ‘New World Order’ policy. As is typical, Canada is on of the vanguard of the coming dystopia.


While advanced in the name of such ‘feel-good’ concepts as ‘freedom’, ‘privacy’, ‘compassion’, or other words that might cause the unthinking to salivate, legalized euthanasia is an egregious breach with the tradition of civilization and, like all such violations, is never as innocent as it is made out to be. Long-term political agendas are being served, namely the further centralization of power in the hands of a national and international oligarchy.


According to the proposed law, voluntary euthanasia will be made legal for competent patients who 1) ‘clearly consent to the termination of life’ and 2) ‘have a grievous and irremediable medical condition that is intolerable to the individual in the circumstances of his or her condition’.


The language is so vague and the “safeguards” so low that it would be easy for doctors to kill people and then to claim afterwards that they consented to it, amongst other possible abuses.Alex Schadenberg has some good informatiom on this.


Incidentally, as I understand it, the “deadline” – no pun intend – that the Supreme Court has set for legalization (with or without a law) is this Monday, the sixth day, of the sixth month, of a year ending in six … surely this is not an accident.




The state has now arrogated to itself the right to divide the population into two categories: those who are ‘killable’ and those who are not ‘killable’ (because they are deemed ‘worthy of life’), and it has also assumed the right to determine whether or not its criteria are met in any particular case. The State, or, more precisely, the representatives of the State (i.e., legal officials, doctors, etc.), will now become the arbiters of life and death.


Since innocent post-partum human life will no longer be something of unconditional value in the eyes of the law, as something sacrosanct that is beyond the jurisdiction of the law, the parameters of “who ought to live” and “who ought to die” can, of course be changed as circumstances or political agendas change.


Before, not even the State could legally sanction or effect the death of an innocent human person after birth. Now, the State has the power not only to do both, but to change at will the conditions under which people might be killed or otherwise ‘suicided’.


In brief, legalized euthanasia sets a terrible precedent. What we are looking at here is nothing less than creeping (and creepy) Totalitarianism: “First they came for the so-called incurables, and I was not an incurable, so I did not speak out …”


In the meantime, the bulk of the Canadian public sleep on, like the anaesthetized automatons that our oligarchic elites think they are. I suppose it can’t be that difficult to euthanize a population, if you have already lobotomized them.



Be that as it may, I do find it incredible that people, when not indifferent to these types of ethical and legal questions, can be so easily brainwashed into acting as cheerleaders for NWO policies whose sole purpose is to disenfranchise them. They cheerfully consent to what can only be described as a metaphysical rape provided that it is sold to them in the name of “progress”, “dignity”, “freedom”, and “equality”, etc.


Perhaps they deserve what is coming to them after all.




M. Oliver Heydorn, left, graduated summa cum laude with a Ph.D. in philosophy from the International Academy of Philosophy at the Pontifical Catholic University of Chile. The IAP is dedicated to the study and promotion of realist phenomenology and other closely related schools of continental thought. For ten years, Dr. Heydorn taught philosophy to undergraduates at three different institutions in three different countries. His articles have appeared in both scholarly and more popular media. He is the author of Social Credit Economics, The Economics of Social Credit and Catholic Social Teaching, and, more recently, Social Credit Philosophy.




Related–  Critics on both sides of Assisted Dying Bill 


—————– Right on Sched- An Assisted Suicide Snuff Film 



Oliver adds: Another aspect of this issue: as our rulers increase the pressure on people and artificially build up the tension in their lives – I swear that life was much simpler in 1986! – through constant economic stresses, social engineering (trans and homosexual ideology being shoved down people’s throats, alongside feminism, multiculturalism, etc.), GMO’s, Chemtrails, vaccines, etc., Al-Qaeda ‘terrorism’ and now that of ISIS, etc., etc., legalizing things like euthanasia and assisted suicide also provides a release valve while serving another objective: depopulation.


The message? “Yes the world is going to hell in a hand basket, but at least now you will be able to get the doctors to out your light!” Once introduced and progressively widened, it’s conceivable that such practices will eventually become culturally normalized or even expected. The Illuminati will be quite happy to see more and more people out their lights, with or without medical help. It saves them the trouble. It’s the same modus operandi: get the people to do it to themselves and make them think it was their idea.


Don’t ge me wrong, I have great compassion for people who are suffering from some terrible terminal illness or condition. At the same time, I am convinced that there are many effective alternative treatments that are being suppressed or ignored by the conventional medical community. Ty Bollinger did a great job just recently with his series of documentaries dealing with effective cancer cures: Also, a palliative care doctor that spoke to a group of us last week told us that with effective palliative care virtually all dying people can have their pain kept in check if not completely eliminated and that the small number (less than 5%) who might not derive the expected benefit from pain killers can be sedated if necessary. A lot of the time it is access to that palliative care that is lacking.


First Comment from Dan: “If anyone tells you State termination of life is going to remain voluntary, tell them they’re an idiot. “More people are killing themselves in the US, Canada and UK than ever.  Last month the CNN ran this headline; U.S. suicide rates on the rise – Do you think those people needed an appointment with a doctor to be “granted a mercy death”?


Listen folks.  We’re not cats and dogs.  When a human being is really ready to end their life, they do the act themselves.   The exception is people who are already flat on their back, being kept alive by doctors to begin with.   That’s how they get “State assisted suicide” accepted.  But in every State that’s made it legal within the last ten years, they’ve already moved to “allowing” perfectly healthy people who want to die.


BELGIUM let’s doctors kill healthy people for “unbearable psychological suffering.”   One such case was the ‘trans man’ (woman who wanted to be a man) who became depressed after “sex reassignment” surgery.   Euthanasia for emotional pain: Mercy or a “culture of death”?


This origin of the idea goes back a hundred years.  The Euthanasia ‘movement’ was a dream of the Fabian Society think tank, funded in the United States at Rockefeller-Carnegie funded research facility at Cold Harbor, New York.  State sterilization of certain people was legalized in several states exactly the same way as Gay ‘Marriage’ was a few years ago.   The German branch of the Eugenics movement took on the job of R&D of State “mercy death” for those “unworthy of life” during the late 1930’s.  Hitler had to cancel the T-4 Euthanasia program on August 18, 1941, due to public outcry by German Catholics, but secretly the operation was carried on in Poland.


First Comment from B



I worked for over 35 years in major Detroit area hospital Intensive care units.   This is absolutely nothing new but only the legalization of what we have been already doing.  White coat murder has gone public and has become fashionable.


Early termination of life comes under many labels including but not limited to:


1) Deceiving loved ones to sign a DNR directive by telling them how traumatic and cruel a CPR is “I wouldn’t want put my Mother through this……..they will break bones…………She will have pain”  this may happen even when the patient is of sound mind.


I ask: is pain is the worst thing that can happen to a person?????? What about Hell??!!!


2)  Getting (bullying, manipulation, coercion, browbeating and guilting……………………………..) the family to donate organs which most assuredly will alter the definition of death to make sure the organs are viable.


3)  Palliative care.


4)  Hospice.


5)  The staff overrides the family’s wishes by quietly doing what they call:  “slow codes” or “walking codes”


6)   A  complete redefinition of life and death to justify abortion, euthanasia, and premature organ harvesting (yes this absolutely happens).


Henry this has been going on for years and years and I have been retired for almost 20 years so God knows what they are doing now.

Who is the ultimate killer?  The synonym for “The thief” is Satan.


John 10:10 “The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.” 

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